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Comments

Kenneth Buddel

I was wondering If I would need a converter for the power since I am in Germany?

Clark Weber

Cleon,

The best way to see the benefits of MotionBased is to use the service. The free version allows you to upload unlimited activities. You may also access your most recent 10 which should give you a good idea on how the service works. The only thing you don't get with the paid version is the Analyzer. I recommend looking through the Information section of our site to see how the Analyzer works.

Clark Weber

Matt,

The existing Garmin Forerunner 301 heart rate strap will NOT work on the new Edge devices.

Clark Weber

Kenneth,

If you purchase your Garmin Edge in Europe, it will come with the appropriate electrical plug and/or adapter.

Clark Weber

Ralph,

Garmin currently does not have any provisions for the recumbent situation you described. You would need to use GPS speed only.

fitz miller

The combo cadence/speed sensor is not going to work on a recumbent. So I would have the combo sensor next to the crank for cadence only.

Since it is a GPS unit, why can't it get its speed from the GPS?

Clark Weber

Fitz,

Garmin added the speed sensor for those rare cases when the GPS signal is weak or out completely. This will replace your speed/distance calculations during those moments.

Francesco

Have you more news about Edge 305 expected availability?
It would be my Christmas gift.

Clark Weber

Francesco,

The Garmin Edge will not be available until January.

David Bumgardner

Grade, Grade, Grade!!!?

Always important for cyclists - will the new 305 display an accurate and real-time readout of the steepness of the hill you are on? I have been using the 301, and would consider buying the 305, but this is a MUST HAVE feature first.

David Squires

Is it possible to make the track you are following fill the whole screen? Based on the screen shots I've seen it looks pretty small, so I'm wondering how useful it would actually be for following a pre-designed route.

Clark Weber

David,

The Edge will provide Grade. Here's the most recent list of available metrics the Edge will calculate and display:

Avg HR
Avg Lap Time
Avg Speed
Calories
Distance
Elevation
GPS Accuracy
Grade
HR to Go
HR Zone
Heading
Heart Rate
Lap Distance
Lap HR
Lap Speed
Lap Time
Laps
Last Lap Dist
Last Lap Time
Rest Distance
Rest Time
Speed
Speed - Max
Speed Zone
Sunrise
Sunset
Time
Time of Day
Total Ascent
Total Descent
Total Distance
Total Time

Clark Weber

David,

You can zoom out enough to show the entire route, but you are correct. It becomes garbled and tough to distinguish the entire route given the small screen size. Regardless, it is easy to zoom in and out in map mode until you find the best resolution for your particular activity.

David Squires

Hi,

I've been told that GPS systems like the eTrex Venture have both a track mode and a compass mode (which shows what bearing the current route is on relative to you, gives advanced warning of upcoming turns, and warns you if you go off route). Does the 305 have the same functionality?

Clark Weber

David,

You will not get the same navigation functionality as the eTrex or Geko series. However, you will get turn notification at critical junctures as long as a track point exists. We have not thoroughly tested the Course navigation of the Edge, so I can't give a first-hand account.

Ted

Help,
New to gps..does anyone have a device recommendation for ATV'ing,mtn biking and backpacking in areas with dense canopies. Some areas where we hike/ride provide maps with gps coordinates to facilitate identification of boundaries and restricted areas. Other areas, are very remote and mountainous..slight evidence of a trail (old abandoned strip-mining/wagon roads) ...with many trials (unmapped)..hence the need for gps to facilitate mapping and exploring the "unknown" instead of spending hours trying to navigate home. MB sounds like the answer to my software/maping issues..but which device??

Thanks, Ted

Francesco

Will I can use the Edge 305 on two different bikes?
Thanks, Francesco

Clark Weber

Ted,

For the activities and conditions described, I'd go with any of the following devices from least to most expensive:

eTrex LegendC
eTrex VistaC

GPSMAP 60
GPSMAP 60C
GPSMAP 60CS

Rino 520
Rino 530

The Rino series may be great for you if you travel in a group. The walkie-talkie features is great to round everyone up.

Clark Weber

Francesco,

The beauty of a GPS device over a traditional bike computer is the portability -- not only between bikes but for other activities (running, hiking, skiing, etc.). If you plan to use the Edge on two bikes, you will want to purchase the following accessories for your second bike:

- Bike Mount (if you want to mount on your handlebar)
- Speed/Cadence Sensor (if you want to track cadence)

Jason Waterman

How well does the route following mode work? Let's say I've downloaded a route that I've never ridden before, how easy is it to follow? How does the device let me know that I should, for example, turn left at this intersection?

Regards,
Jason

Clark Weber

Jason,

Route finding works great. It will display a breadcrumb trail of the route and show where you are in relation to the route you downloaded to the Edge. It will also display turn arrows at major changes in direction. It does NOT provide street names or audible instructions like many of the Garmin mobile devices.

C. O.

After your ride, can the Edge display the amount of time spent in each heart rate zone? Reporting average and max heart rates don't help much, but reporting total time spent in each zone is very helpful. (I am assuming it uses 5 target zones, like the 301).

C. O.

It would be nice if the bike computer industry would tone it down a bit with the wireless everything. Wireless is subject to interference from many sources, including the increasingly popular HID bike lights. I can live without heart rate information for my night rides but I'd still like to have mileage and average speed info at the end of the ride. I can't understand why an industry would work so hard to promote a technology that is more expensive, less reliable, and offers absolutely no advantages over a wire. New does not always mean better.

Clark Weber

C.O.,

The Edge device itself won't tell you the amount of time spent in each heart rate zone, but you can review that information after you upload your data from the Edge to either MotionBased or the Garmin Training Center.

The GPS device will calculate mileage and average speed without the need of a wireless addition -- so you should be all set.

C. O.

Thanks Clark. A few more questions.

Do you happen to know if GPSs are sensitive to interference from HID headlights?

Is the Edge display backlit?

Does either the Garmin software or Motionbased summarize the heartrate data by time spent in each range or is it just a continuous graphical heartrate/time display?

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