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Comments

Arleigh

been looking for a GPS for awhile now for riding. The key thing I am looking for is a cue sheet print out.


Any recommendations?

Robert

Thx 4 your clear reply.
I'll put your comments directly through to Suunto.
4 times 'lucky'? ;)

Anoll

Hello,
is it possible to trackback a route wich I've created on my PC before? (e.g. with Fugawi, Ozi Expolorer or Magic Maps)
I usually drive routes wich I've never seen before. And right now I always need a HAC4 together with my yellow Etrex. If it is so, the Edge would be mine.

regards
Anoll

Clark Weber

By cue sheet, I assume you want to print a list of directions from point A to point B. The Edge will not support that functionality. We are exploring this feature for MotionBased.

Rather than a print-out of directions, the Edge provides a course for you to follow. You can put the GPS in map mode and if you have uploaded the course from MotionBased to the Edge, you can follow a breadcrumb line as you ride. You will know quickly if you get offfoute.

Clark Weber

Anoll,

We plan to introduce functionality that will allow you to trackback routes that you manually create in Google Earth Plus/Pro (paid versions). Here you can draw routes on Google Earth and then save the file to your desktop. Then, you will download that file through the MotionBased Agent to the Edge. I'm sure Garmin will provide similar functionality with their mapping program -- MapSource.

Better yet... you can always look up the 100,000+ activities on the MotionBased TrailNetwork to find a new ride. Here you just find a route you like, click on a link, and our MotionBased Agent will download that route to the Edge.

Andrew Robinson

Here is a wild idea: add a small wireless weather station. Think I am crazy? It would be really nice to know wind conditions for us road bikers. Head wind conditions are a major factor in cycling. I have see three bladed wind cups with a single cup that is slightly larger. The unit is able to gauge wind direction. Factor that in with known ground speed and direction from the GPS. Might as well get temperature in there. Plot all of that against your speed, cadence and HR! WOW!

Rick

I understand that the Edge will be able to use "courses" from Motion Based. Would this feature be available in the "free" version of MB?

Clark Weber

Rick,

Our "Download" feature will be available to everyone -- paying and non-paying customers. Anyone will be able to browse their own Digest or the TrailNetwork and download that activity into the Garmin Edge as a "Course".

The beauty of this system goes beyond simply navigating a route on the GPS but to see how you're performing against the activity you chose from MotionBased. So sweet!!!!!!!!!!

Robert

Hmmm... on the speed/cadence function, this would need to be two sensors in one package from how the specs read and what the photo of the unmounted sensor, one for monitoring crank rotation and the other for monitoring rear wheel rotation... is this correct? If so, i was wondering how much it would get in the way during wheel changes. Just wondering if anyone had a chance to check this aspect out.

Clark Weber

Robert,

The speed/cadence function will use one self-calibrating wireless sensor that mounts to the bike’s rear chain stay. A wheel magnet mounts to the rear wheel for speed and a cadence magnet attaches to the crank arm.

So... you're looking at one mount and two magnets on the back of your rig.

Robert

Clark,
Thanks for verifying this... it should be a very cool unit for characterizing routes, baseline riding performance etc. I remember incidents of others or myself bumping rear sensored kits out of alignment when doing a fast wheel change (e.g. race conditions). I probably would not use it on a race rig anyway, simple is always a good thing ;-)

Mort

Am I to infer that if one wants to have both cadence and HRM features, it will be possible? Purchase the HRM, for example, and then buy the cadence/speed sensor separately?

Clark Weber

Mort,
Yes. You will be able to have both Heart Rate and Cadence. At the time of this post, you would have to do the following to get this setup:

1) Buy Edge 305HR and the Cadence/Speed sensor seperately, or
2) Buy Edge 305CAD and the HRM seperately

At this time, Garmin does not have a product SKU that combines all of them at once. Hopefully, this will change.

Rick

I wonder if the Forerunner 301 HRM strap will be compatible with the Edge 305?

Clark Weber

Rick,

The heart rate staps don't appear to be compatible...forward or backward.

Jason

I'm highly interested in useing the Edge for BOTH cycling and running. I do both a lot and I only want to purchase one device. The Edge seem superior in most ways to the Forunner... is that true? How hard would it be to carry the Edge during a run...?

Clark Weber

Jason,

The Edge is designed for cycling. We've been told that the new GPS chipset doesn't like the constant motion of swinging arms and can produce bad results. That said, I've done two runs with my prototype and it works like a charm. Keep in mind... I place the Edge in a pouch strapped to my upper arm so it is being used exclusively as a recording device. I get no real-time benefits this way.

BTW... the results are very good.

Jason

Thanks for the quick response Clark.

That's pretty much what I expected you to say and is disappointing. I'd really like to run with this device. In Winter, riding can be a challange here, but without being able to see Pace and HR both at a glance, the benefit of the unit is greatly reduced.

What disadvantage do you see to my getting the Forerunner, keeping in mind that I'll use this for cycling 6 months per year, running year round and the occasional mountain biking and Tri. events.

Thanks,
Jason

Craig

I've preordered the edge 305. I saw on Garmin's website that the expected ship date was changed from November 2005 to January 2005. Has the release date changed?

Craig

I've preordered the edge 305. I saw on Garmin's website that the expected ship date was changed from November 2005 to January 2005. Has the release date changed?

Alejandro Bruyere

I have a FR201 and find very nice results exporting data to xml and then uploading file to qpsvisualizer
question : among using MotionBased site.. may I still have access to the Edge 305 data in xml format.

thanks Alex

Cleon

I am in Atlanta Ga. & as I read the questions & Comments I am made painfully aware that I really don’t know enough about how to get the full benefit of MB or my 301hr devise. I think if I new more I would get a bigger benefit to my training & my device. What can I do to help this? Is there a customer service number or what do you all suggest? I would love to use the importing of the trails to my unit to track my performance from earlier run & or rides but I just don’t know how. Thanks for any & all advice and I love the site. In case you can’t tell I am new to training and am training for triathlons and think my 301 & your site will get me to where I need to go. Currently I have the free ver. but I am just about to get the paid year. Also how would I go about seeing if you all have the silver comet trail in your data base already?

Ralph Jauch


I see that the Edge 305 speed/cadence sensor is a single unit dual sensor mounted on the chain stay to measure both wheel and crank rpm. I have a Rans V-Rex Recumbent with crank high out in front and wheel elsewhere with no line up for a single unit available. Would I need to purchase an additional speed/cadence sensor and would that work?

Thanks, Ralph

Matt Pryle

can the 305 be used with exsisting Garmin hr rate strap

steve moss

garmin still need to do further soft ware development on the 301, which is excellant and I have been using for a while. But we need to be able to print etc without doing screen prints and paste. We also need to be able to section routes off after wards when analysing a race in sections. Comparing heart rates speed etc. The total climb recording is extremely useful in mtb races pity the 301 doesn't have that ability. keep developing. We often ride in unmapped areas so being able to print out and add notes to routes is an extremely useful feature that is missed. Steve Botswana

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